Ahem, I mean “Rachel Does a Group Session”. Actually, I think the former sounds less dodgy!
Thanks to Anita, she alerted me to a regular swim session that Barbara Miller was planning at QEII, with Roly Crichton at the helm – each Monday and Wednesday evening for an hour. I managed to get myself a slot, and away I went last night. I wasn’t sure what to expect – it was advertised as being suitable for beginners right through to swimmers who want their technique analysed/tweaked and to learn how to find some speed (pick me! pick me!).
There was a pretty good turnout for the first night – probably around 20 at a guess. We were split into three different groups, with a lane for each group. Anita and I chose the third group, which was the most advanced. I wasn’t sure whether that was the right move or not, but as it turns out, it was fine. I knew I could do any distance work that might have been required, but I just wasn’t sure whether my pace was up to it.
I think the numbers were too great for Roly and his sidekick Glenn to effectively manage (in terms of offering stroke advice to each of us), but we did seem to have Roly all to ourselves which was good – no sharing him with the other two groups. He said we were all doing really well, so I took from that that he would work with what he had, rather than try to change any of our techniques.
To improve (in Roly’s view), it would seem that it’s important to be able to billateral breathe. I’ve tried it over the past week, but I submerge completely and end up swamping myself! A few times last night, Roly said he wanted us to billateral breathe if we possibly could – and he looked at me a couple of times when saying this! I happened to mutter almost under my breath “Awwww, I can’t!”, only to have another woman respond “There’s no such thing as can’t you know - I’ve learnt that!”. That sort of comment is why I tend not to do group sessions. I felt like saying to her “And who are you, and what have you done? Don’t talk to me about overcoming things we don’t think are possible!!”. Actually luvvy, I wouldn’t have been able to billateral breathe last night. Not satisfactorily enough to have completed what was required of us. Give me some time to practise the art of billateral breathing, and I’ll be back to kick your arse. Until then, I’ll be the judge of what I can and cannot do at any point in time.
Rant over.
The session was made up of a number of drills – sighting, kick boards etc. I have to say that I felt quite hot and bothered at the end of the night – I’d used muscles that hadn’t seen the light of day for a while, particularly whilst breaststroking! I think my technique is okay (freestyle, not breaststroke!!), I just lack the strength and kick to be faster. If these sessions can work on that, then I think they will have merit.
What I found disappointing, was towards the end of the session, Roly announced that he was going to push us, as he believed we were up to being challenged. To that end, he advised that he wanted us to swim 200m without stopping. I was almost like WTF! 200m? Is that being challenged? Hmmm, I’m now feeling caught between thinking the session might be too rudimentary for me, but then thinking that the drills will be really useful. The jury is out, however, as to whether I should be spending two hours a week just doing drills! I’m thinking maybe once a week will suffice, with other sessions for distance work.
Anyhoo, I’ll be back tomorrow night and the pool will be down to 25m in length. He said he’d push us a little more given it will be a short course and therefore less initimidating. I’ll make my mind up after that as to whether I think there’ll be a future for me doing these sessions.
PS I really enjoyed Roly’s approach – obviously he’s more mellow with us old girls.

I think he’s unaware of what some people’s abilities are (clearly he wouldn’t know unless someone in the know told him).
So he thinks 200m is a challenge only becuase he doesn’t know you can swim 3.8km (plus?).
I’m with you, I wanted something specific to concentrate on, I don’t care if it’s the same advice given to someone else if they have the same issue (just pick one, there’s many I’m sure).
Maybe we just need to ask.
By: Neets on June 23, 2009
at 8:25 pm
I think I’m just used to fronting up to things and there’s a bit of an introduction, like a “What do you want to get out of it” type question. Even a bit of a brief to Barb from each of us beforehand would have been useful. I mean, he was telling everyone to swim 50m to start with, and yet there were women who couldn’t even swim!! I felt really sorry for them – I would have panicked if I were them!!
But at the end of the day, it’s not designed to be a squad session, but drills to help technique (which I assume should extend to improved pace).
By: Rachel Harris on June 23, 2009
at 8:37 pm
If Mark was here he would have pushed me off the computer with your blog headline – you’re sure to up your blog stats with it, the ‘Debbie does Dallas’ movie I’ve heard, of had nothing to do with swimming! LOL
By: ange on June 23, 2009
at 9:12 pm
I’m glad you enjoyed it. Roly does have a soft side!!
Glenn is really nice and has has good programs. You are lucky that you got individual help…thats something I have yet to get from Roly. Maybe once bubs is out I’ll join those swim sessions!
Usually if you say ‘can’t’ in Rolys swim sessions he’ll have a go at you so I learnt fast not to say the C word!!
As for the bilateral breathing… I struggle with this as well, especially when roly makes you do hypoxic (sp) breathing- ie breath every 5 strokes or every 7 strokes!!
Well done – keep it up.
By: kalina on June 23, 2009
at 9:22 pm
Glad to see you have been to a group session Rach.
I could go on for ever about the pros and cons of these, but in brief.
The main thing you want to get out of them are just a few aspects of your stroke that you can work on, such as how your ‘catch’ is, body position, etc. You can then focus on these aspects when doing your regular swimming, therefore you are practicing technique.
I think drills are largely a waste of time unless you do a specific drill to help you with one of the aspects of YOUR stroke. Then it’s only best to do them as part of your warm up and cool down.
You only have time to swim 2-3 times per week. You haven’t got time to mess around with drills for a whole session… you need to freaking swim.
Everytime you swim you are practicing technique, this is why ’swimmers’ swim everyday for 4 – 10K per day.
You have to swim and bike and run and look after a family and work etc.
And I totally sympathise with you Rach… I CAN’T stand people who say there’s no such thing as can’t… American bullshit… I can’t swim 100m in 01:04… I could deny this fact and waste a lot of my time and energy and life on this planet trying to but I’ve got better things to do that I know I CAN do. Being aware of out limitations is just as important as being aware of our abilities… we can then channel our energies where they can be best put to use.
Have a go at the bi-lateral breathing but don’t over stress it. Norman Stadler (World IM champ, i.e. better than Cam Brown doesn’t swim bilaterally)
Ian Thorpe had relatively poor technique (he swam catch-up which is inefficient, hmmm he was the fastest guy on the planet aswell).
Your body will find out what works best for it.
Your a triathlete / worker / mom / multisporter, not a 15 year old swimmer chick!
P
By: paul on June 24, 2009
at 5:20 am
Can’t wait to hear what Rachel responds to with “Your a triathlete ….”
Nicely said Paul. I’m glad someone has said that there are some things you can’t do. Maybe the lady was meaning more that you need to try first before you come to the conclusion that you can’t.
And I believe Rachel has tried.
I’m surprised Rachel didn’t push me under when I said “believe, believe!” I’m just glad I wasn’t the one that said “there’s no such thing as can’t”
By: Neets on June 24, 2009
at 7:39 am
Oooo, that was a rant and a half!
By: paul on June 24, 2009
at 5:20 am
mmmmmmmmmm i was considering joining you girls for a few of those sessions but think i’ll give it a miss toooooooooo mannnnnnnnnny women in one group is not great, i’m surprised your going back rachel.
i like paul’s comments, i have practiced various drills till i’m nearly blue and you know what i just seemed to get better at the drills but it didn’t help me swim any faster !!!!!! was i doing the right one’s????? who knows eveytime i see somebody else about my swimming they say the complete opposite to the last person.
mmmmmmmmm maybe i’ll win a share of that $35 million tonight, then i can give up work and just swim 5-6 days a week
maybe that will help.
By: zarnia on June 24, 2009
at 7:54 am